CAKE: How about the GERMS?
NICK: Who?
CAKE: The GERMS. They were an LA punk band.
NICK:: Oh, yeah! I've heard of them, but I haven't heard their stuff... Ah, I have heard their stuff actually. They were very good. yeah.
CAKE: Are you aware of the live bootleg that came out in 1990? The one that said "Proceeds will go to fighting animal abuse"?
CAKE: It's a seven inch e.p. that I found in San Francisco. I couldn't believe it and somebody obviously tried to make money off the band. The cover looks exactly like your artwork?
NICK: Oh, yeah?
CAKE: ...but not as complex. Have you heard of that?
NICK: No, but I'd like to see that!
CAKE: If I ever come across another copy, I'll send it to you.
NICK: Thanks.
CAKE: I've also come across four live tapes from 1982.
NICK: Yeah, I think John told me about that.
CAKE: What inspired your elaborate sketches in the two early E.P.'s and in "Death Church"? It looks like it took you a year to do that poster.
NICK:: Yeah, I was trying to be as most origional as I could because I saw this exhibition called THE OUTSOUTSIDERS which was done by people from asylums and hospitals and prisons and if anything is work that work is work, I think.
CAKE: Yes, it is!
NICK: It's so much suffering encapsulated into it and also to be as origional as l could.
CAKE: Was Dali an influence in any of that?
NICK: No.
CAKE: I said that because A lot of your work looks very Daliesque espicially the religious imagery. Was it because upbringing was quite religious and you were rebelling against it?
NICK: No, not at all.
CAKE: Oh. that's good I was...
NICK: Yeah?
CAKE: I was raised a Roman Catholic...
NICK: What? Strict?
CAKE: Strict.
NICK: Yeah, Dali turned towards religious art during his final years.
CAKE: I think, that his best quote is "The only difference between a madman and myself is that I am not mad."
NICK: Yeah.
CAKE: In comparison to a 1982 interview with Grant which appeared in "Blast", a Scottish fanzine, you guys listened to - bands like MINOR THREAT, GANG GREEN and PART ONE. What do you listen to now? What type of music?
NICK: Um, I don't listen to music much anymore.
CAKE: If you were listening to a particular type of music what would it be?
NICK: Punk, I suppose. That's what I would listen to.
CAKE: How did your connection with SEPTIC DEATH and PART ONE come about?
NICK: I used to write to Pushead for a long time and PART ONE wanted me to do their back cover. Did the SEPTIC DEATH album come out yet?
CAKE: Well, I know of a single of them that you did the label drawing for... [Actually at press time they had released a CD compilation on Toy Factory Records. "Theme From Ozobozo"]
NICK: l'm planning on doing a chronological curtain(?) drawing for the next album.
CAKE: For the next PENl album?
NICK: Yeah
CAKE: Great. When is that going to come out, you think?
NICK: Oh, I dont know. We haven't recorded it yet.
CAKE: But it could come out early next year?
NICK: Yeah.. could be.
CAKE: Do you think that Rudimentary PENI will ever play another show live?
NICK: Maybe. Maybe. One or two maybe.
CAKE: Would you ever want to come to the U.S.?
NICK: Could be... Yeah.
CAKE: Back in 1984 Rudimentary Peni were supposed to play a show until Grant was diagnosed with cancer.
NICK: Yeah.
CAKE: I have a suggestion, if RUDIMENTARY PENi played with FUGAZI or Bad Religion[???] then that would be quite a show
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